Published on May 18, 2010 By Murex In DesktopX
Now that I have your attention!!
 
I would like to discuss DX in general.  With the arrival of windows 7 some parts of DX are really not necessary as a lot of programs that is used often can be pined to the task bar.  So I am wondering what parts of DX are really used by the average user.  Myself and Jim would like to see more skinners making DX themes.  I know a lot of people are saying that DX is broke and to hard to use to make a theme. Well Jim and I both use DX Pro  version 3.5 on windows 7 and for the most part it is pretty stable.  I'm sure standard DX 3.5 will work just a good. At this point V 4 isn't worth installing.
 
Thanks to wonderful people like sViz and RomanDA there are now quite a few really good scripts to work with.  If any one would like to either get back into DX skinning or would like to start skinning I would be happy to help any way that I can and I'm sure Jim would help out also.
 
As a user what  objects do you find most usable?
 
DX Player
Weather
Clock
Calendar
Menus
Meters and Gauges
Do you like animations in the themes?
 
We would like to have your thoughts and comments. Please keep on topic and refrain from telling us how bad or borked  or what a piece of crap DX is. WE already Know what does and does not work in DX. 

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on May 19, 2010

I thin a lot of the objects are kinda dead. I used to love making DXThemes.

I can't find scripts to do what I want to do which is make more interesting desktop interfaces. I have a few that have been sitting around for a while because I can't find the scripts or understand how to write them.

I personally think the way to go with DX is to make more interactive themes (and you don't need a lot of animations, etc)

 

Here are three that have been dead in the water due to scripting problems.

OCCAM (I had made an entire new set of weather icons for this as well)

 

DOOM

 

 

TYCUS

on May 19, 2010

I thin a lot of the objects are kinda dead. I used to love making DXThemes.

I can't find scripts to do what I want to do which is make more interesting desktop interfaces. I have a few that have been sitting around for a while because I can't find the scripts or understand how to write them.

Great looking graphics PO. Come on back to the dark side and finish those themes.  I myself can not write a script. I can modify a script to work for me if it isn't to complicated.  But I have found that if I contact some of the script writers that most of the time if not all the time they will help me out. 
 
Have you tried using your weather graphics with the weather Template by sViz?  If not give it a try and if you need help either Jim or I would be glad to help.
 
If you like you can tell us what you want to do with your theme maybe we could help you find a script that would work for you.
on May 19, 2010

Someone once said to me that a lot of my themes are the same theme with graphics swapped out, well, isn't that exactly what WindowBlinds is? Yes.

Only that You are not bound to certain shapes and order of controls in DX. Can You have a round window for example in WB ? No. In the beginning of DX we had really innovative ideas and themes that got dated and left alone by the makers as DX got less and less development and support.

Look what people did with Sountox or Universe Metal or others over 5 years ago. Look at Gef's things. I would really like to update all these and bring them to modern standards. But not with DX all wrecked and dated.

RedneckDude, don't get me wrong, I don't want to talk down Your efforts, but I am under the impression that You think it will have any effect how much people do DX things, It does NOT. We've been there and done things for years.  Think Vad, Roman, Gef and others who are nearly forgotten already. You just have to look through the galleries from the beginning.

I think at some point Stardock has to decide if they want to do games or Desktop Customizing besides some 3 or 4 mainplayers (WB, DeskScapes (as useless as it is...), Fences and perhaps IP) instead of wrecking apps and then put everything on hold and in wrecks because the next game or little favorite minor project (speak Fences) has to be realeased... See the ObjectDock desaster also.

on May 19, 2010

Pos's things are great, yes, but I understand his problems fully.

Aside from Bugs You have to struggle with when trying advanced things. Bugs as dumb as DX forgetting persistent settings sometimes. Reported for YEARS.

on May 20, 2010

But I have found that if I contact some of the script writers that most of the time if not all the time they will help me out.

Roman had helped me with some, but he is very busy, which I understand. What help he did give me showed me that what I want IS possible.

Okay, who wants to take a look at OCCAM for me?

on May 20, 2010

I rarely use any of the DX themes.  I never thought they were the point of DX.  They are nice and useful ..  but give me the tools!

RomanDA has made a number of mini-apps that I use every day.  That has been the strength of DX.

  • DX timer is super useful to me.
  • Process Memory Usage - useful
  • Site-checker - not as useful at the moment but very nice.
  • Holiday countdown - Use it daily
  • File transporter - killer app

Littleboy's Volume control is super cool and useful.

CerbrosJD's Pixel ruler is a tool I always keep with me.

on May 20, 2010

Okay, who wants to take a look at OCCAM for me?

 

Sent you a PM PO,  I'll try to help you out.

on May 20, 2010

On the way.

on May 20, 2010

Even though i have only made 1 dx widget, it gave me hours of fun designing it and making sure all the graphics worked right, that the scripts for visibility etc worked. I wanted to do something different, think out of the box and thats what i did. Its so much easier then doing a blind, and is versatile in its features other then a wb which is just basically a background. I used to use the weather widget a lot before the problems, now i tend not to as its less accurate. It can still be used as a good programing tool.

on May 20, 2010

File transporter - killer app

Littleboy's Volume control is super cool and useful.

CerbrosJD's Pixel ruler is a tool I always keep with me.

OK, the first one, I'm stupid, I guess, can't figure out how to use it...

Second and third.....I need to find these!

on May 20, 2010

PoSmedley

But I have found that if I contact some of the script writers that most of the time if not all the time they will help me out.


Roman had helped me with some, but he is very busy, which I understand. What help he did give me showed me that what I want IS possible.

Okay, who wants to take a look at OCCAM for me?

I would love to have a look, but I can only barely edit script. I can sometimes modify what is alredy there, but nothing from scratch. I'll help in any way I can. Holler back!

on May 21, 2010

One down.

WHo wants to be the next to get a headache looking at OCCAM.

on May 21, 2010

Have you read the post above you? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

on May 21, 2010

Hey all

 just saw this.. YEP, I'm a busy bee these days, work has me on the road more than home. But that's not why im not into DX that much any more, As Zubaz can attest to, if you give me a challenge, ill do what i can to make it work.  I still use DX all the time, but now its on work or personal related items.  Drop-Info is used daily for our computers we setup for our systems.  I had to make a simple little delay-loader that loads user-specified programs after a user-defined pause.  We needed this due to the time it takes for a database sync to take place on boot up.

 As for helping, ill do what i can, but that isn't a ton these days.  If you ask, ill do what i can.  My frustrations with DX is more than well documented, and i had high hopes for DX4.  Little bugs that have been part of dx for over 6 years.  I LOVE DX, its the single most versatile program i have ever played with (as the true DX master VAD_M has shown over and over and over).  I so miss working on dx projects, it seems like years since i was "plugged in" to WC and DX.  Life just takes over.  Its May and i have over 300 hrs of OT this year, so my time at home.. is usually spent on Call of Duty (yes I'm RomanDA there as well) taking out some frustrations, or just resting.

 I dont know where im going with all this, its bean a long day, and i fell like crud, sinus infections suk.  I have tried to leave WC a good base of tutorials to start with, to learn with, and i have tried to help where i can, and whomever has asked.  If you have a great idea, let me know, who knows, i might be able to help. (no promises).

on May 22, 2010

YEP, I'm a busy bee these days, work has me on the road more than home.

I figured as much when you didn't get back to me. It's all good. The help you gave me got allowed me to egt further with it than I could have.

 

sViz has worked out the rest. Redneck pointed out I need to bring the bottom icons up a bit. Now I have to try and reassemble the weather object. The one I had was done before the weather stuff got all mucked up.

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